Suicide prevention in England
BMJ 2019; 366 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.l5102 (Published 13 August 2019) Cite this as: BMJ 2019;366:l5102
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About a dozen responses.
Every one of the respondents make points which the “ministers” ought to take to heart. And DO something about. I fear that appointing A MINISTER for suicide prevention is a waste of money.
Causes are multiple. Means employed are multiple - and range from slow self-neglect to forced medication, to weapons.
Can the Royal College of Psychiatrists and the British Psychological Society possibly give clear, brief, advice to Her Majesty’s Govt, about the actions the government must take?
With reference to Dr Stavros Saripanidis’s response, Dr Noel Thomas has pointed out the obstructions to religious / spiritual guidance or even discussions, because of the General Medical Council’s edicts. However, there is a way out - howsoever narrow and tortuous.
There are at least three very rich religious denominations in the UK (Islam, Judaism, Christianity).
They could set up outpatient treatment and counselling services for members of the public able and willing to seek their help, using any or all tools at hand. These would include discussion with, guidance from, their qualified priests. The NHS could subsidise.
Perhaps there is a flaw in my thinking?
I would be grateful if it could be flagged up.
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During the week that this editorial(1) was published online, the website of the UK Department of Health and Social Care was updated to indicate that Nadine Dorries would take on responsibility for suicide prevention and patient safety.(2) This followed the initial announcement on 27 July 2019(3) of her appointment as one of the Department of Health’s Under Secretaries of State, but which had not yet specified her brief.(4) This appointment of a new suicide prevention minister was without fanfare and not formally announced. The role had also morphed slightly from that of Secretary of State for Mental Health, Inequalities and Suicide Prevention,(5) as held by her predecessor Jackie Doyle-Price, to that of Mental Health, Suicide Prevention and Patient Safety.
The purpose of the 13th August editorial was to identify interventions shown to prevent suicide that might be feasible for a suicide prevention minister to initiate within a ministerial term. Means restrictions interventions consistently stand out as those most strongly supported by research evidence, and are an obvious target for a headline-grabbing ministerial announcement. One suggestion made in the editorial was that a minister might consider recommending the removal of all ligature points from general hospital wards and Accident and Emergency departments. This would bring acute hospitals in line with the same requirement for psychiatric hospitals, to reduce the risk of hanging attempts.
However, there are also many opportunities for means restriction beyond the health sector. Public Health England have published 2015 guidance on restricting access to the means of suicide, including by installing physical barriers to prevent jumping.(6) The road, rail and water networks, as well as the coast, present many opportunities for a minister to announce investment in building barriers at such sites in order to improve safety. These have the advantage of reducing the risk of accidental death as well as suicide.
This week ONS published its annual suicide registrations data for the UK,(7) finding an increase in suicide rates for the first time since 2013, with highest rates seen in middle-aged men and women. Suicide rates had increased among the under 25s, as per the trend over recent years, particularly in 10 to 24-year-old females. As in previous years, hanging accounted for 59% of suicides among males and 45% of all suicides. The rationale is clear for a new suicide prevention minister to invest in evidence-based suicide prevention interventions, particularly those that restrict the means of suicide, and in continued efforts to prevent the onset and worsening of mental health problems.
References:
1) Pitman A (2019) Suicide prevention in England BMJ 366 (Published 13 August 2019) doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.l5102 https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5102.full
2) https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of...
3) https://www.healthcareleadernews.com/nadine-dorris-and-jo-churchill-made...
4) https://www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-regulation/reality-tv-star-and-hunts-fo...
5) https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of...
6) Public Health England (2015) Preventing suicides in public places: A practice resource https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
7) Office for National Statistics (2019) Suicides in the UK: 2018 registrations https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarri...
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1997 was the year I became acquainted with akathisia except I didn’t know it at the time. Akathisia wasn’t part of my vocabulary.
I was admitted to my local psychiatric hospital having abruptly come off Paroxetine. I had little understanding of antidepressant withdrawal and according to my medical notes the psychiatrist in charge of my care though aware of Paroxetine dependency treated what he saw as “intolerable anxiety symptoms”. I was commenced on Venlafaxine along with Thioridazine substituted for Droperidol after I developed postural hypotension. The Droperidol was gradually increased to 20 mgs four times a day. I was put on Thioridazine and Droperidol without benefit of knowing what they were. My psychiatrist expressed amazement that I still had anxiety symptoms. One of the most vivid and abiding memories I have of that time is of pacing the ward corridors praying I’d survive. My notes record I was prescribed Procyclidine for extra pyramidal symptoms, again something that wasn’t explained to me at the time.
In early 2011, within a week of completing a taper from Venlafaxine which I’d begun in late 2010, I felt that terrible symptom return. Many pharmacological interventions were tried and failed. Post-acute withdrawal syndrome persisted until in the summer of 2012 I attempted suicide by taking an overdose of Lorazepam, Diazepam, and Imipramine. A short trial of Moclobemide proved equally fruitless and I was left to taper off Diazepam and Zolpidem. I subsequently suffered severe suicidal ideation and enduring akathisia. These were years when I seriously doubted I would survive. Only my family kept me alive.
I’ve provided this snapshot of what I experienced to illustrate that suicide is an ever present danger because of adverse drug side-effects and when commencing/coming off or adjusting the dose of psychiatric drugs. Antidepressant withdrawal has been known about for decades but it was only at the end of May this year that the Royal College of Psychiatrists finally acknowledged what many patients have been at pains to tell them for some time, that withdrawal symptoms can be severe and long-lasting (1). This historical lack of recognition for severe and protracted withdrawal has led countless GPs and psychiatrists, including my own, to believe in relapse thereby compounding iatrogenic harm, increasing the likelihood of permanent neurological injury and ultimately increasing the risk of suicide. Drug companies I’m appalled to discover, knew that the newer SSRI antidepressants could cause akathisia in some patients as early as 1978 (2). I’ve also seen some of the evidence amassed by Professor David Healy where I note that healthy volunteers in clinical trials have become suicidal on SSRIs which challenges the idea that the problem lies with the patient and not the drugs. I constantly meet people like me on social media and in support forums, sadly, quite a few of them are no longer with us. I want to take this opportunity to warn doctors and psychiatrists that inevitably more will suffer and die if they aren’t willing to have honest conversations about withdrawal, akathisia, neurological injury, and suicide. (3)
1) https://www.socialaudit.org.uk/4200DTAY.htm
2) https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/oct/30/weekend7.weekend1
3) Huff C. Don’t miss this adverse drug reaction when tapering benzodiazepines. Kevin MD.com 2018 Nov 27
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The cherry picking of potential causes of suicidality by the medical profession is very frustrating and morally, a huge issue. There is no doubt that psychiatric medications can cause previously non suicidal patients to attempt to take their own lives. Most if not all psychiatric drug patient information leaflets carry this warning.
There is also no doubt that adverse reactions to and withdrawal symptoms caused by these drugs contribute significantly to the number of suicides and quite likely homicides, in most countries where the modern, drug-based model of psychiatric care delivery has been adopted. I can attest to that myself. Trying to stop and then reinstate an antidepressant when hideous withdrawal symptoms emerged, threw me into a state of profound suicidality. It was without doubt the most frightening, debilitating and disturbing experience of my life. I constantly wonder how I fought my way through the seemingly never-ending desire to end my life precipitated by the drug withdrawal symptoms, but I did.
I had to fight very hard to gain recognition of this problem, which further added to the suffering. Denial, denigration and minimisation of the cause was only ended after fully documenting my experience. Why wasn’t I listened to in the first instance, at which time a huge amount of suffering could have been avoided?
For me what is required is acknowledgement of the risks of these medications and proper training of prescribers to ensure they know what symptoms to look for that may indicate the drug is causing major issues for the patient. There is no doubt this is not happening at present. Blaming suicide on only the patient’s condition is very misleading and often just plain wrong.
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As a psychiatrist working in NHS Scotland I was interested to read this Editorial about suicide prevention in England (1).
In June of this year BBC Scotland reported on official NHS Information Services Division (ISD) figures that confirmed the number of suicides in Scotland had increased by 15% in the previous year. The National mental health charity SAMH was quoted as describing the figures as "devastating" (2).
I am one of the nearly 1 in 5 Scots prescribed an antidepressant. I wonder how many of the 1 in 5 have, like me, been taking antidepressants long term? The dearth of evidence for long term treatment would indicate that such prescribing (greater than 18-24 months) lacks a robust evidence-base.
If the drugs were helpful here, we surely should have seen a dramatic drop in suicides since the 1990s launch of the industry-sponsored 'Defeat Depression Campaign' and the huge rise in antidepressant prescriptions it brought about.
I recently shared my experience of a selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor in a national newspaper (3) . I have since been overwhelmed by responses with most of those writing to me sharing similar experiences of antidepressants. I concluded my account in the newspaper with this statement: "From my experience, I believe antidepressants can increase the risk of suicide by causing major changes in impulsive behaviour when people are started on them or try to stop them. Yet the medical and scientific professions persist in ignoring this — through what I can only call wilful blindness. "
The seven responses so far to this Editorial would indicate that there has been considerable difficulties in sharing the experience of prescribed drug impulsivity, akathisia and suicidality (4). A clear pattern seems to have shown itself: that the Royal Colleges, National Suicide leads, Suicide charities, opinion leaders, Governments and their officials may not be approaching this potential contributor to suicide by respecting the much quoted dictum that "everyone matters".
References:
(1 ) Suicide Prevention in England, 13 August 2019; BMJ 2019;366:l5102
(2) "'Devastating' increase in Scotland's suicide rate'"BBC Scotland, 24 June 2019; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48770610
(3) I hope others can be spared the hell I went through with depression pills, by an NHS psychiatrist who says coming off them left him suicidal. 1 July 2019; Dr Peter J Gordon; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7202413/I-hope-spared-hell-we...
(4) Rapid responses to Suicide Prevention in England, 13 August 2019; BMJ 2019;366:l5102; https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5102/rapid-responses
Competing interests: I have been taking Seroxat (Paroxetine) for two decades and in withdrawal from it tried to hang myself. I was prescribed this drug during the "Defeat Depression Campaign" for social-anxiety disorder.
As a UK campaigner on prescribed drug dependence, withdrawal and iatrogenic harm for the past five years, I am filled with dismay by the current approach to suicide prevention. It is some 45 years since I suffered a paradoxical reaction to a benzodiazepine, a reaction which went unrecognised by the medical profession. As a young woman with no knowledge of prescription drugs I had no idea that the rapid deterioration in my health was due to the drug. This lack of knowledge on my part and of course my parents plus the failure of the medical profession resulted in my being referred to psychiatry where I was prescribed many antidepressant drugs which also caused many adverse effects. The fact that I remained completely ignorant of the adverse effects of these drugs meant that I firmly believed all subsequent suicide attempts were due to my mental health.
I continued to take both classes of drugs for most of my adult life because of the terror of returning to a suicidal state should I ever stop them. I now realise that the most likely cause of those suicide attempts was in fact the drugs prescribed to me. At age 65, I am now off these drugs but very badly damaged as a consequence. I wonder why I had never heard of akithisia for example despite consulting with doctors for 40 years, I have only recently learned about it online from the patient support groups. I have learned more about psychiatric drugs in five years from these groups than I knew in 40 years of medical consultations. All consultations with psychiatrists focussed on my personality, my childhood, my family and my difficulties of coping in life, not once did any psychiatrist suggest that I was in fact becoming more and more disabled due to the drugs I was consuming, taken as prescribed.
I have attempted to communicate on Twitter with a variety of “experts” in suicide prevention but I rarely receive a response. It seems to me that the silence around the subject of adverse drug effects and suicides suggests it is a taboo subject. Little has changed since I was a young woman in 1975, in a desperate state, and no one mentioned that I could be experiencing a paradoxical reaction to a drug or other drug side effects. This single medical failure has destroyed my life.
They say there is stigma around mental health, I would contend there is far more stigma about prescribed harm, we are all told to talk about our mental health, but when we talk about the link between prescribed drugs and suicide there is a very disturbing and chilling public silence. I have been labelled as a pill-shamer online and one psychiatrist has suggested I support Scientology, I have also been described online as hysterical, irrational and emotional by a hospital consultant. I am in fact none of these things, I am simply a prescribed harmed patient who has sustained brain damage through no fault of my own. Recognition of a paradoxical reaction 45 years ago could have allowed me to lead a normal life. Perhaps greater public awareness and better medical training in the adverse effects of psychiatric and other prescribed drugs might just save some lives.
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Scotland as an example; why Governments are getting it so wrong.
Paradoxically speaking……. more drugs, more suicide.
A paradoxical reaction or paradoxical effect is an effect of medical treatment, usually a drug, opposite to the effect which would normally be expected. An example of a paradoxical reaction is suicidal ideation caused by antidepressants. It is now widely acknowledged, prescription drugs can put us at risk of dangerous adverse effects, most notably, antidepressants and some other medication can raise the risk of suicide.
At events run by Samaritans Scotland, NHS Scotland and the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland, people directly affected by or who engage with those affected by suicide were asked to ‘share their views on suicide prevention’. The events aimed to influence the development of the Scottish Government’s next Suicide Prevention Action Plan, published in Spring 2018. The findings of the consultations were presented to Scotland's Mental Health Minister, Maureen Watt.
I personally attended the consultation in Inverness on January 18th, 2018. I respectfully made the point that any Suicide Prevention Strategy discussions must include discussions about the adverse effects of antidepressants and other other prescription medication. The Suicide Prevention Strategy 2013-2016 included the statistics that 59% of the 5,119 people who died by suicide between 2009 and 2015 in Scotland had at least one mental health drug prescription dispensed within 12 months of death. 82% were prescribed an antidepressant alone or in combination with another drug. Why were alarm bells not ringing?
I was disheartened but not surprised to find, as with the Mental Health Strategy 2017-2027, the Suicide Prevention Report failed to mention our ever increasing dependence on the medication 59% of people who died had been prescribed.
SSRI antidepressants have different names throughout the world but the mechanism of action is the same. They are generally prescribed on the basis they cure a ‘chemical imbalance’. No chemical imbalances have ever been proven to exist. No tests exist to support this theory, and it is a societal belief based on pharmaceutical marketing.
Animal studies demonstrate when initially given Fluoxetine (Prozac), an SSRI Antidepressant , the brain shuts down its own production of serotonin, causing a paradoxical effect or opposite effect on the level of serotonin. The brain’s chemistry wants to remain balanced and any disruption from SSRIs or other medications throws the brain off balance. For this reason the Food and Drug Administration requires “Black box warnings” on all SSRIs, stating very clearly that they double suicide rates from two per 1,000 to four per 1,000 in children and adolescents.
“Instead of correcting biochemical imbalances, the drugs cause biochemical imbalances. Deterioration seen in many patients is not caused by an inherent disease process within the brain, rather a by toxic exposures to psychiatric medication. Every psychoactive medication disrupts the normal homeostatis of the brain, causing additional biochemical distortions within the brain as the organ attempts to overcome or compensate for the drug-induced disruption of normal function.” (Andrews, Kornstein, Halberstadt, Gardner, & Neale, 2011; Breggin, 1991,2008a; Breggin and Breggin, 2004; Science Daily, 2011a).
In short, the drugs ‘create’ a chemical imbalance rather than ‘cure’ one. It is at times of starting medication or increasing or decreasing doses the imbalance most often occurs.
Certain behaviors are known to be associated with these drugs, including anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, impulsivity, akathisia (severe restlessness), hypomania, and mania. Any of these adverse effects can cause both suicide and violence.
SSRI Stories (www.ssristories.org) is a collection of over 6,000 “stories” in which prescription drugs are mentioned and the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including suicide and violence. There are over 1300 harrowing deaths reported in detail in the suicide section, all of which were linked to Prescription medication, in particular SSRIs. There are many untold “stories”; for years families have claimed that antidepressant medication drove their loved ones to commit suicide, but have been continually dismissed by medical companies and doctors who claimed a link was unproven. There are also landmark settlements by pharmaceutical companies to families who were brave enough to pursue their claims.
Maureen Watt said “every suicide is a tragedy with a far-reaching impact on family, friends and the community long after a person has died.” The story of 16 year old Scot, Britney Mazzoncini is added to the ever growing list of suicides caused by prescription medication. She went to her GP with depression and was prescribed a month's supply of Propanolol, a Beta-blocker / anti-anxiety drug. She left the surgery with 84 x 40mg tablets and was advised to return in 28 days. 16 days later, she took an overdose and died at their family home in Glasgow. What we do know is Beta-blockers, particularly the more lipophilic, nonselective beta-blockers, like propranolol can cause major depressive episodes after initiation of therapy. Her mother had no knowledge her daughter was taking the medication. She lodged a petition at the Scottish Parliament asking for a rethink of the way GPs treat mental health conditions in young people. She wants GPs to be unable to prescribe anti-depressants to under-18s without the knowledge of a parent or guardian.
Don’t we owe it to Britney and her mother and all the others who have lost loved ones to include discussions about the adverse and often paradoxical effects of antidepressants and other prescription medication if we are to effectively influence the development of any Government’s Suicide Prevention Action Plan?
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As a former educator, communication professional and the mother of a teen who died a violent, akathisia-induced death precipitated by wrongful prescribing, this article was disappointing. Like so many of these calls for public actions purported to reduce suicides, the author neglects to utter critical "A" words.
Adverse drug reactions and medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death in the US. In the UK, researchers recently estimated 237 million medication errors occur in the NHS in England every year and are responsible for an estimated 712 annual deaths. Further, avoidable adverse drug reactions "could be a contributory factor to between 1,700 and 22,303 deaths a year" (1).
These adverse drug reaction statistics bring us to that other "A" word--one that it seems many doctors and suicide prevention programs are averse to utter: Akathisia. It is well documented in medical research and clinical drug trials that Akathisia can create suicidal thoughts, suicidal actions and suicide itself. The symptoms of akathisia are unrelated to pre-existing mental health challenges despite that SSRIs (pharmaceutical products marketed as "antidepressants") are one class of drugs that can and do cause akathisia. Even healthy volunteers in the pharmaceutical companies' clinical drug trials experienced severe akathisia (2).
In the US, the FDA has a Black Box warning on SSRIs (Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, etc.) stating they can cause suicidality. This warning applies to consumers 24 years and younger (3). There is no valid reason to believe SSRI consumers in the UK are at less risk of iatrogenic, akathisia-induced self harm and deaths--deaths often mislabeled as "suicides." Any public health initiative supposedly designed to reduce suicides, particularly among school-aged children and young adults, should responsibly address these "A" words. Suicide prevention charities, suicide prevention programs and medical professionals who choose to keep akathisia in the darkness do so at the expense of public health and safety.
Calling for more "education" in schools will likely lead to an increase in the misdiagnosing of normal, albeit difficult, life challenges as a DSM-labeled mental illness. This will lead to more pharmacological "treatments" and the increased prescribing of psychotropic drugs to a vulnerable age group at risk for akathisia-induced iatrogenic deaths. This concerns me particularly given I have family and friends living in the UK.
Perhaps one reason akathisia and other adverse drug reactions are rarely covered is due to unethical financial and political conflicts of interests with a pharmaceutical industry that puts profits before people. While this behavior is nothing new in the pharmaceutical industry, it has more recently gained the public's attention as the industry-fueled opioid epidemic continues to cause avoidable deaths at alarming rates (4). It's also possible suicide prevention programs and this article's author are simply unaware. Other possible causes for "A" word omissions include pernicious apathy or willful blindness.
I cannot be certain why some hushed "A" words are seemingly banned like Nathaniel Hawthorne's forbidden Scarlet Letter. But the general public--and thousands of moms like me--deserve an answer:
Why do suicide prevention initiatives continue to talk about ropes and balconies yet refuse to discuss a smoking gun called akathisia?
References
(1) https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/200-million-medication-errors-occur-...
(2) https://rxisk.org/akathisia/
(3) https://www.fda.gov/media/77404/download
(4) https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/76-billion-opioid-pills-ne...
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During the course of the last 8 years I have met and worked with many people who were deeply suicidal. Some of these people have now, tragically, ended their own lives..
This has led me to explore extensively what is going on especially in the lead-up to suicides.
I have been very concerned to discover that, for many of these people, the compulsions to end their lives are actually driven by cumulative and/or adverse effects of antidepressants and other medications. The most worrying aspect of all is that the medical profession has been extremely reluctant to engage constructively to recognise - and do something about - the very real risks that we are flagging up (1).
"For those who have had acute adverse reactions, some have been left with severe nervous system damage after just brief exposure to the drug. For others, many years may have elapsed before long-term problems made it necessary to try to ‘come off’ the drug(s) – and attempted withdrawal has been catastrophic. Several cases of life-threatening serotonin syndrome have been missed by doctors and the symptoms further poly-drugged. The accounts describe shattered lives, relentless desperation and deep enduring suicidality, suicide attempts and actual suicides."
The reference 10 in this Editorial article is particularly interesting - revealing beyond any doubt the position that GPs are being placed in, apparently having no idea of the real effects of the 'antidepressant' drugs that they are prescribing, per guidelines, supposedly to 'save lives' (2).
"Although primary care is crucial for suicide prevention, clinicians tend to report completed suicides as non-preventable. We aimed to examine systemic inadequacies in suicide prevention from perspectives of bereaved family members and GPs".
We have discovered a very troubling widespread issue that none of the suicide prevention charities and initiatives will even engage in discussion around the issue of effects of prescribed medications needing addressed. Recent twitter exchanges with leading figures in UK National Suicide Prevention initiatives have confirmed that there seems to be a complete ‘block’ on any discussion of these issues. This makes a mockery of ‘suicide prevention’.
Steps could be taken right away to ensure that yet more people are not put at risk. I am co-author of this ‘Voice of the Patient’ systemic review paper which offers some practical suggestions (3).
(1) Brown M, French F, Duthie A, Thorpe B: Is the BMJ – and the medical profession it represents – really listening to patients? BMJ Rapid Response April 2018 https://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.k1408/rr-0
(2) Leavey G, Mallon S, Rondon-Sulbaran J, Galway K, Rosato M, Hughes L. The failure of suicide prevention in primary care: family and GP perspectives - a qualitative study. BMC Psychiatry2017;17:369. doi:10.1186/s12888-017-1508-7. pmid:29157221
https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-017-1508-7
(3) Guy A, Brown M, Lewis S. The Patient Voice: An analysis of personal accounts of prescribed drug dependence and withdrawal submitted to Public Petitions in Scotland and Wales. APPG-PDD October 2018
http://prescribeddrug.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Voice-of-the-Patien...
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Re: Suicide prevention in England
Alexandra Pitman, following recent various central initiatives, speculates on what a new ministerial post holder in the role of suicide prevention might contribute.
A way forward that has not been covered previously is to address the undeniable connection between suicide with psychiatric medications in relation with pharmacogenetics. The recently published review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31370036 is the first one of its kind to implicate certain medications as a cause of violence due to pharmacogenetic polymorphisms and neurotransmitter disruption.
In general medicine, it would be unthinkable to undertake invasive surgery without prior knowledge of patients’ blood group. The same view point needs to apply to psychiatric medications as knowledge of patients genotype prior to prescribing would prevent neurotoxic reactions such as violence associated with suicide. A simple genotype test would ensure increased patient safety in lieu of psychiatric prescribing towards the reduction of suicide and homicide.
Furthermore, it would be vital for a new ministerial holder to ensure transparency from all participants; this to include declaration of financial conflict of interests, i.e. pharmaceutical companies, either personal and/or with the public body that is being represented. Moreover, another responsibility of the post holder would be to ensure all UK bodies who are involved with mental health to fully embrace pharmacogenetics as the major way forward; NICE, MHRA, RCPsych, BNF, BMA and GMC need to be seen to be working cohesively in the interests of patients and prescribing doctors. This is essential to protect mental health patients from prescribing harm. Additionally, it is a necessity to tape record all meetings in order to ensure participants are fully accountable for their behaviour, particularly meetings which go on behind the scenes which set pre-determined outcomes for successive meetings.
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