BMA meeting: BMA representatives vote to ban homoeopathy from the NHS
BMJ 2010; 340 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.c3513 (Published 30 June 2010) Cite this as: BMJ 2010;340:c3513All rapid responses
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Dearest Noel,
I'm sorry for your disappointment. You'll be pleased to know I feel
fine.
Nowhere have I called YOU a charlatan. You must have imagined it. To
be a charlatan, you would have to knowingly set out to deceive, and I have
no evidence that you are not a genuine believer in your product. But
genuine belief does not in my view make homoeopathy a profession, nor its
practitioners , colleagues. Belief that homoeopathy is superior to
placebo is a false belief, well demonstrated by RCT.
Wikipedia definition: A charlatan (also called swindler or
mountebank) is a person practising quackery or some similar confidence
trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages via some form of
pretence or deception. The word comes from French charlatan, a seller of
medicines who might advertise his presence with music and an outdoor stage
show. I hope you will agree that any practioner meeting this definition
ought to be dismissed.
Squabbling is indeed a pointless exercise. Looking to RCT science is
not only my right, it settles the matter in the most 'disinterested'
objective manner available to us.
I did say "where's the harm in a charlatan shaking water ?", and
frankly, apart from the deception necessarily involved, I could not see
any harm. Certainly not from homoeopathy - scientifically demonstrated to
be no more harmful than water, and as effective as placebo.
yours content,
sam lewis
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It is disappointing that Dr Lewis declined my offer of lunch. It
seems he misunderstood my letter, which was not to do with changing his
mind nor saving his soul, only a plea for better communication across the
divide, and for critics of homeopathy either to moderate their language,
or to justify their intemperate choice of words. I had hoped that over
lunch he would describe in more detail the charlatan status he had
bestowed on me. The better for me to deal with it.
Dr Lewis says that he has studied the science, and found homeopathy
wanting, no better than placebo. That is his right. Disinterested
observers might think otherwise, and can make a start at
www.britishhomeopathic.org . Likewise, medical homeopaths have studied
the language that he and his fellow critics use. We are perplexed. What
have we done to deserve such epithets ?
Dr Lewis writes that there is nothing to squabble about. Then why
liken professional colleagues to charlatans ?
Medical homeopaths and disinterested onlookers must wonder what
fuels the colourful and dismissive language that our critics favour ? Two
recent books, unlikely sources at first sight, provide starting points
for discussion.
Wilkinson and Pickett (1) devote a few pages to reviewing psychologists’
findings on the changing nature of self esteem in recent decades, and how
this might influence behaviour.
Iain McGilchrist (2) , in the course of a formidable tome, offers some
fascinating insights into the roles of the left and right hemispheres, in
producing contrasting perceptions and reactions, at individual and
cultural levels.
Medical homeopaths, running to their dugouts as another barrage of
critical flak threatens, could do worse than grab their copies of these
books, en route.
The lunch invitation remains open !
(1) Wilkinson and Pickett. The Spirit Level. (Allen Lane.) p40 et
seq.
(2) Iain McGilchrist. The Master and his Emissary. The Divided Brain and
the Making of the Western World. (Yale.)
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Thanks for the offer, Noel, but may I politely decline your offer. I
have plenty of opportunity to meet with homoeopaths, and other alternative
practitioners much closer to home. Discussions with these believers have
been less useful than with the local vicar or priest - all well-meaning
and as concerned for my soul, but no minds get changed.
For me, the matter of whether homoeopathy or any other medicine
works, is decided by the Science, which is plain as day - good RCTs
repeatedly show that Homoeopathy is as effective as placebo.
There is nothing to squabble about - just as soon as a quality,
sizeable RCT shows a medicine works, then the NHS should ask NICE to
economically appraise it. Meantime, my placebos are just that.
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Rosiglitazone, a drug introduced to the market in 1999, is “unusually
good” at reducing blood sugar. [1] Rosiglitazone has also been a nice
little earner for GSK: annual sales peaked at $2.5bn in 2006.
The NHS spends £4m per year on homeopathic services and £152,000 on
homeopathic remedies. [2] No patient is harmed but delegates at the recent
BMA conference claimed that no patient benefits from homeopathy any more
than might be expected from a placebo treatment.
Rosiglitazone brilliantly lowers blood sugar but a landmark meta-
analysis in 2007 showed a 43% increase in the risk of heart attack while
taking the drug. GSK was notified in 2003 about an unusually large number
of reports associating rosiglitazone with heart problems. The risk was
real and GSK - and its previous incarnation SmithKline Beecham - had
actually known of those risks for more than a decade: they buried the data
while billions of dollars poured into corporate coffers. [3]
There is absolutely no evidence that homeopathy causes heart problems
or any other sort of problem to patients: many people seem to be helped at
very little cost. However, these facts did not stop one delegate at the
BMA conference, provocatively likening homeopathy to witchcraft and
facetiously apologising to witches who were "apparently offended by the
association with homoeopathy."
It would seem that GSK has given way to the mischievous burial of
negative evidence. The NHS has apparently given way to incompetence and
corporate greed, while the BMA has given way to an incompetent and
misguided band of witch-hunters. The mischief makers should apologise to
the homeopath, the good scientist and the patient, taxpaying or otherwise:
they all deserve an apology – a big one.
[1] Diabetes drug 'victory' is really an ugly story about
incompetence. Rosiglitazone has been a magnet for disappointing behaviour
since it was first marketed in 1999. Ben Goldacre, The Guardian, Saturday
17 July 2010.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/17/ben-goldacre-diabetes-
drug
[2] Homeopathy is "witchcraft" and the National Health Service should
not pay for it, the British Medical Association has declared. The
Telegraph, Laura Donnelly, Health Correspondent. 15 May 2010.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/alternativemedicine/7728281/Homeopathy-
is-witchcraft-say-doctors.html
[3] Diabetes Drug Maker Hid Test Data, Files Indicate. The New York
Times, Gardiner Harris. July 12, 2010.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/health/policy/13avandia.html?_r=1&src=...
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Debates in your columns, and elsewhere, that purport to be about the
effectiveness of homeopathy, are seldom what they seem. They are more
often a demonstration that we do not practice what we preach.
We strongly advise couples at war, who shout at each other through closed
doors, leaving angry notes about the home, that they should re-establish
communication, perhaps with an intermediary.
This present flurry of emails, better mannered than some in the past,
contains many positive, thoughtful and reflective comments. Critics of
homeopathy, on the other hand, are once again in dismissive mode;
..“useless treatments” ....“Martian Canals”….”a charlatan shaking water”…”
some NHS physicians merely pretend to believe in
homeopathy”….”fraudulent”.
Many doctors attending an introductory course in homeopathy will
have driven home feeling astonished that transparently sincere and well
intentioned colleagues could possibly believe such things as they had
introduced us to. They must be mad. My feelings exactly, nearly thirty
years ago.
Some doctors, convinced that homeopathy is not for them, will peacefully
pursue other interests. Some may find their own astonishment to be a
challenge, look further, read more, and be even more astonished at the
results they get. A few, who may not even have gone on the course, nor
read a book, nor talked with a homeopath, will react as if personally
threatened, their world view endangered, and resort to criticism and
abuse that speaks more of their own frame of mind than it does of the
effectiveness of homeopathy.
Scientists, faced with something they do not understand, wish to know
more. Many critics of homeopathy, proud of their scientific background,
find something that they do not understand, and immediately ridicule it.
Most scientists, aware of the remaining uncertainties of the atom and
the universe, retain some sense of humility. A characteristic one
searches for , with difficulty, in our critics’ contributions.
If we are really concerned to put our patients’ interests first, we
must stop squabbling. A colleague from West Wales , Dr Lewis, a GP
trainer, likens homeopaths to “ a charlatan shaking water “. I invite him
to choose a hostelry, half way between his home and mine. Over lunch, he
can describe to his GP registrar my many charlatan attributes. I will
happily pay for the meal. (nthomas@doctors.org.uk)
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I trust Mark Struthers' questions are genuine, and that the best
valid RCT scientific evidence will be acceptable in response ?
If it be so, can we both agree that homoeopathy is as good as
placebo, neither worse nor better ?
Can we then agree that RCT evidence of Statins vs. placebo will
therefore allow a direct answer to his questions ?
QUESTION 1: In 2002, the NHS spent £550m on statins and £700m the
following year, with the predicted cost to the NHS rising, by 2010, to a
colossal £2.1bn. [2] The statins stride high on stilts. Of course, The NHS
would expect the benefit profile to be high on stilts too. I wonder if
that’s true ( ? )
ANSWER 1.
In 2002 Simvastatin cost the NHS £30 per month per person, but it came off
-patent in 2005 and dropped to £4.87 per person per month.
Cost savings (£) per life year gained from Simvastatin 40mg , at 2005
pricing, was calculated by the HPS investigators (ref 1):-
10-yr CVD Risk:
Age 10% 20% 30% 40% 80% ========================================================== 40 - 49 440 880 990 1010 990 50 - 59 370 630 680 760 720 60 - 69 140 360 400 440 400 70+ -80 70 160 190 140
QUESTION 2: What is the evidence for statin benefits?
Despite the oft-quoted fact that death-rates of women were not
statistcally significantly different in 4S, Metanalysis in 2005 of
secondary prevention trials showed large and consistent 30% reductions in
CHD rates and 20% reductions in mortality rates (ref 2)
In primary prevention it is true that benefits diminish rapidly as
CVD risk diminishes, both for individuals and populations, as Des Spence's
WOSCOPS 'treatment paradox' states. Most Individual patients get no
health benefit at all, since individual benefit is a direct function of
numbers needed to treat ( NNT), which is itself simply the reciprocal of
Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR). Only that 1 person in an NNT of 100 will
gain. However, there is a real reduction in disease for populations, 30%
better than placebo (ref 3). The aforementioned NET cost-saving to the
NHS is confirmed by NICE's economic evaluations.
Despite the recent re-hashed mta-analysis of Statins in Primary
prevention, where Ray et al remove hundreds of patients post-hoc from the
published primary prevention trials ( claiming them to be 'secondary'
contamination) the real reduction in disease holds up significantly. Only
be removing the 'high-risk' or so-called secondary cases post-hoc, is the
mortality benefit attenuated to zero, leaving a population with a mean ten
-year CVD risk of 11% (on placebo). Such a low-risk population is widely
acknowledged to be below the recommended 20% CVD risk threshold for
treatment by NICE. People with pristine vasculatures are not expected to
benefit from statins at all. 30% of a zero risk is equal to no benefit.
QUESTION 3: What are the risks to quaffing statins?
Surprisingly few !! see ref 5.
Whereas homoeopathy is equal to placebo.
Opinion and rogue conjecture, however enjoyable provocative or
mischievous, should give way to quality RCT evidence.
Dr Sam Lewis
References:
1. Heart Protection Study Collaborative
Lifetime cost effectiveness of simvastatin in a range of risk groups and
age groups derived from a randomised trial of 20 536 people
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2. Efficacy and Safety of cholesterol-lowering treatment: prospective
meta-analysis of data from 90 056 participants in 14 randomised
trials of statins
Cholesterol Treatment Trialists' (CTT) Collaborators
The Lancet
Volume 366, Issue 9493, Pages 1267-1278
(October 2005)
3. The benefits of statins in people without established
cardiovascular disease but with cardiovascular risk factors: meta-analysis
of randomised controlled trials
BMJ 2009;338:b2376, doi: 10.1136/bmj.b2376 (Published 30 June 2009)
Brugts, J J et al. BMJ 2009;338:b2376
4. Statins and All-Cause Mortality in High-Risk Primary Prevention
A Meta-analysis of 11 Randomized Controlled Trials Involving 65 229
Participants
Ray, K. K. et al. Arch Intern Med 2010;170:1024-1031.
5. Unintended effects of statins in men and women in England and
Wales: population based cohort study using the QResearch database
Julia Hippisley-Cox and Carol Coupland
BMJ 2010;340:c2197, doi: 10.1136/bmj.c2197 (Published 20 May 2010)
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The British Homeopathic Association (BHA) says the NHS spends about
£4 million a year on homeopathic services and the Department of Health
says spending on the medicines themselves is just £152,000 a year. [1]
Homeopathic remedies are reputed to cause no direct harm from side-
effects.
Contrast homeopathy spending with that on the panoply of cholesterol
lowering drugs. In 2002, the NHS spent £550m on statins and £700m the
following year, with the predicted cost to the NHS rising, by 2010, to a
colossal £2.1bn. [2] The statins stride high on stilts. Of course, The NHS
would expect the benefit profile to be high on stilts too. I wonder if
that’s true.
What is the evidence for statin benefits?
Des Spence looked at WOSCOPS and the number spinning paradox that
despite investing many years in taking statins, individual patients get
virtually no health benefit at all. [3]
What are the risks to quaffing statins?
Arnold Jenkins looked at the 4S statin survival study and found that
more women died in the treated group than in the control group. Dr Jenkins
wondered whether money spent on statins might be better spent elsewhere.
[4] When budgets are under strain, the NHS should not be wasting cash on
useless treatments: I wonder why the NHS still pays the phenomenal cost of
such statin nonsense.
[1] Homeopathy is "witchcraft" and the National Health Service should
not pay for it, the British Medical Association has declared. Laura
Donnelly, Health Correspondent. The Telegraph, 15 May 2010.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/alternativemedicine/7728281/Homeopathy-
is-witchcraft-say-doctors.html
[2] Over the counter statin: will they deliver the goods? 2003.
https://www.gpplus.com/health/statins.html
[3] The treatment paradox. Des Spence. BMJ 2008; 336:100 (12
January), doi:10.1136/bmj.39454.622824.94
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/336/7635/100
[4] Might money spent on statins be better spent? Arnold J Jenkins,
BMJ 2003; 327:933 (18 October), doi:10.1136/bmj.327.7420.933-b
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/327/7420/933-b
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I have never treated anyone homoeopathically. Nor have I studied
homoeopathy. However I have seen homoeopathy succeed - in the hands of
registered medical practitioners. How it works is no concern of mine; if I
am ill I want to get better.
It was a very unwise vote by the BMA.
JK ANAND
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How encouraging to see members of the BMA taking a stand against
homoeopathy being funded by the NHS. The practice of homoeopathy has no
scientific basis and has never been proved effective when proper studies
have been conducted. The NHS has no cash to waste on useless treatments,
especially when the budget for genuine medicines is strained.
It has been argued that homoeopathic preparations, being mostly
water, do not have a risk of side effects. (Although there is the story of
a homoeopath who forgot to take his medicine and died of an overdose!) But
homoeopathy carries a grave risk: patients may be dissuaded from taking
effective treatments and may suffer disability or even death that could
have been avoided. The situation is akin to patients who take unproven
remedies for cancer and refuse potentially lifesaving treatments.
It is true that homoeopathic preparations frequently are less
expensive than modern drugs, but the NHS should not spend a penny on
treatments that are at best ineffective and at worst fraudulent.
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Re: Physician, Heal Thyself.
Study first, judge later
I think that “Science” has become the most misused concept in human
history. The definition of science simply means a system of knowledge.
It does not imply infallibility or some special powers and superiority.
To be a scientist implies studying subjects on their own turf, meaning
learning about their substance, basis, methods and effects. The real
science does not work on consensus.
Many people and organizations hide their inexpertise and ignorance
behind “science”, most infamous being the religious Inquisition and
infamous individuals (Dr Mengele claimed “I am a scientist” as if that
justified his cruel and unethical experimentation on inmates of
concentration camps, especially children.)
More recently, the orthodox medical system usurped the word and
claims to be [the only] scientifically proven system, the reality being a
far cry from such false claims of superiority over other healing systems.
Ironically, publications by the very carriers of this illusion reveal
tampering with and manipulation of the results of observations and tests
and their false claims of effectiveness and safety of their medications
and prophylactics.
To document my point, just a few examples of the testing or mass
vaccination drives of polio vaccines:
When the first, injectable Salk vaccine was tested on some 1.8
million US children (1954-1955), cases of paralysis in the vaccinated and
their contacts occurred within days. It became known as the Cutter
Incident (Francis et al. 1955 (Evaluation of the 1954 poliomyelitis
vaccine trials. Poliomyelitis Vaccine Evaluation Center, University of
Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan; 12 April 1955: 500 pp); Peterson et al.
1955. Vaccination induced poliomyelitis in Idaho. Preliminary Report of
experience with Salk poliomyelitis vaccine. JAMA; 190 (1): 41-48).
Cutter Laboratories were asked to withdraw all their vaccines, even
though vaccines produced by other manufacturers also caused paralysis.
Redefinition of polio as a disease with residual paralysis persisting for
more than 60 days (as opposed to the original definition, a diseases with
residual paralysis resolving within 60 days) followed.
Kim-Farley et al. (1984) described poliomyelitis outbreak In Taiwan.
The first OPV vaccination received by the victims within 28 days before
the onset of paralysis was not counted, even though it is well-established
that most cases (over 60%) occur after the first vaccine dose. To
describe such victims as unvaccinated is not only a major scientific fraud
but it contravenes the definition of vaccine-associated paralysis as
determined by the US Special Advisory Committee (Henderson et al. 1984.
Paralytic disease associated with oral polio vaccines. JAMA; 190 (1): 49-
51: a case occurring within 30 days of the vaccine dose).
Sutter et al. (1992. Outbreak of paralytic poliomyelitis in Oman;
evidence for a widespread transmission among fully vaccinated children.
Lancet; 338; 715-720) documented 118 cases in Oman: “Incidence of
poliomyelitis was highest in children younger than 2 years (87/100 000)
despite an immunisation programme that recently had raised coverage with 3
doses of oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) among 12-months-old children from
67% to 87%.” Despite?
And, “There was no correlation between vaccination coverage and
attack rates by region; the region with the highest attack rate had one of
the highest coverage rates…whereas the region with the lowest coverage had
a low attack rate.”
No correlation? In fact, a perfect correlation showing that the vaccine
caused the outbreak.
Polio vaccination has continued despite its obvious ineffectiveness.
Those who have really studied homeopathy have always come to
recognise its scientific basis and validity.
Those who reject it without knowing what it is are only showing their
own gaping ignorance, very serious lack of wisdom, and, no scientific
acumen. It is usually coupled with abusive language, and truly medieval
persecution of their victims (shaken baby syndrome) and of the real
scientists (I don't have to point to some recent events.)
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