Doctors held for bombing attempts, but NHS defends vetting procedures
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Dear Dr. Gosalakkal
I totally agree with your views. I am a proud Indian and have strong
belief in non-violence. people who are involved in violence/ terrorism are
those who do not realise their own values. Such people neither represent
themself, their country of origin nor the human race.
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I feel that medical training and the medical profession as a whole
encourages courteousness, patience, level-headedness, open-mindedness,
consideration and good temperament, while discouraging prejudice or pre-
judgement of people – professionals and patients. I’ve had the pleasure of
working with some great, good-natured professionals – some Muslim, and
many being non-Muslim, and feel that for the most part, it was the nature
of their training and their jobs that perhaps polished their – probably
already decent – disposition. Though some of these are not Muslim, I
consider their character to be rather Islamic.
The GMC guidelines are Islamic. The principle of the NHS is Islamic.
The fact that Britain strives to become the centre and principle of
certain areas of research, is Islamic (note: the first words revealed by
the archangel Gabriel was “Read! Read in the name of your Lord!” which
also translates to ‘learn’, in the Qur’an). The fact that Britain has a
social support network, and a system that allows the poor to gain
‘benefit’ credits/money, and the fact that however destitute one might be,
there is always (unless I’m mistaken) a way out to improve your position.
These are all Islamic principles of erudition, progression, charity,
fairness and consideration for others.
It was for these reasons that I was truely shocked and dismayed when I
heard about the fact that the most recent attackers were doctors with a
Muslim heritage. I was truly shocked that such people could be so
irrational as to do such a terrible, unIslamic act. I feel that there must
be something wrong with their mental well-being, because doctors were not
even the last people I expected to do something like this.
I’ve only worked for a year now, and was quite pleased to find that I
was regarded as a doctor first and foremost by colleagues and by patients
(except for a few rare occasions) – despite my attire: the hijab
(headscarf), the tunic, and trousers. Rarely did I feel different from
anyone else.
I really don’t think many people quite realise the effects of the
media on people’s perception of Muslims, Islam and brown-coloured/ethnic-
looking people in general.
I am a Muslim, borne and brought up in Britain, and now a doctor. This is
my home, though I do feel quite foreign – especially recently.
Unfortunately, before even 9/11, as a youngster growing up in
England, I received minimal verbal racial abuse from fellow residents in
my neighbourhood – which at that time was quite deprived. Though it was
frightening at first, being so young, it is something I just learned to
live with – I have a different appearance to most of my residents – I am
brown-coloured, so I learned to expect a bit of abuse from some misguided
individuals.
Whilst in hospital, with my ethnic attire, my stethoscope and my
hospital ID badge, patients (the general public, from all walks of life)
receive me well. I sense no ill-feelings. It is partly why I am so proud
of medicine as a profession – because we genuinely care (at least I do!)
and people know it. It is why doctors have so long been regarded as noble
and trustworthy members of society – regardless of your ethnicity or
appearance.
Nevertheless, when outside the hospital grounds, without my stethoscope
and without my hospital ID badge, some are quite abusive. I become that
brown-coloured passer-by who dresses funny. The first time that happened
(about 2 weeks after 7/7) as I was leaving the hospital grounds, and I
realised the protection my stethoscope and ID badge gave me. It was a
pathetic situation, and I felt quite depressed about it.
These are (I hope) a minority group from the general public. But why
do they hold such negative sentiments towards people who happen to be
brown or happen to bear a Muslim-ish name, or happen to look like an Arab
or Muslim? Ten or twenty years ago, the average member of the general
public knew very little about Islam. I’ve witnessed Britain through these
years until today – where the average member of the general public is now
a little more informed about Islam and Muslims, by nothing other than the
media groups that feature on our televisions and in the forms of tabloid
newspapers.
Now the media is not all that bad. It can, if used properly, do some great
things in terms of keeping us informed about worldly affairs; it can
encourage people to at least think about giving to charity; it can give us
the opportunities to learn something new. However, its greatest downfalls
are its ability to damage relations and promote or spread falsehoods, to
encourage prejudiced behaviour by the ignorant, mis-guided or easily-
influenced, and to spread inflammatory gossip about people, mostly the
famous (just because they’re famous, its no excuse to print such reports).
Tabloids which have reported violent acts such as the 9/11 and 7/7
attacks, and the more recent Glascow bombings have persistently used terms
such as ‘Islamic extremists’, ‘Islamic/Muslim terrorists’, ‘Muslim terror
plot’, ‘Islamist’ - all being offensive but the latter I find the most
offensive. Unfortunately, a generous proportion of the general public are
easily influenced by the words that these tabloids print.
Since the Glascow acts of violence, a number of doctors have had to
suffer a bit of prejudice. One colleague has been working in A&E for a
year. He is Arab and Muslim. He looks like an Arab, and even sounds like
one. He recently expressed dejection, that since the Glascow violence
happened, he’s noticed a definite and clear difference to the way patients
receive him. He now finds developing a good rapport more difficult than
ever. Before he enjoyed his job and now he feels silently judged and
discriminated against by people who really don’t know him.
A second doctor in his 1st year of doctor-hood - who isn’t even Muslim
and happens to have brown-coloured skin and black hair – has been
receiving verbal abuse from mostly Caucasian passengers on the bus home
from work, all pertaining to various terrorist attacks that have involved
‘Muslims’, as the media has put it.
Now, I feel that even in hospital, despite my stethoscope and badge,
because of my ethnicity and my attire, some patients will be more
conscious of my faith. Some might be fearful of me. Some might not want to
even be treated by me. Some might hate me for my beliefs or the way that I
wish to live my life.
Reality is one thing, but what the public think is quite another.
What the media report, and how they report is a huge responsibility on the
part of the editors and publishers, because what people read as a result
can have huge implications on the opinions and actions of people – the
readers/watchers of TV.
(Note: It’s not for no reason that ‘The Independent’ newspaper is called
‘The Independent’ – because it wants to separate itself from the skewed
reporting of some other well-known publications.)
Prematurely reporting details about such incidents can be damaging to any
future proceedings that may take place. Indeed, once someone who is
initially portrayed as guilty is found innocent, they have to make an
extra effort to rebuild their lives that the media so briskly tarnished.
People remember faces, tabloid headings and allegations more than they do
the truth. Indeed, the final truth doesn’t make the front page anyway.
Islam has been terribly portrayed. It is for this reason that Islam is
considered a violent religion; Muslims are considered as violent,
stubborn, irrational people – when the truth is far from it.
It’s all now very depressing. Sure, there is plenty about Britain
that is unIslamic, but there is so much for Muslims to be proud of about
this country – really proud. There is good and there is bad about every
country, and that includes arab, asian, eastern and western countries. The
key is for Muslims and non-Muslims to promote the good and desist the bad
– in any country/city/area/society. We have a lot to thank the media for,
but at the same time, the media, which is in a position of moral
responsibility, has a lot to answer for.
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Overseas doctors have made an invaluable contribution to the NHS over
the years and it would be dreadful if the trust that exists between
patients and doctors, whatever their background, was harmed by these
events.
We must cut those criminals and murderers from our society, and we
urge all peaceful and law abiding citizens from all communities to be one
in this hour of attack on our British way of life.
I am British citizen of Egytian origin and I am a Moslem and I am
very proud of that,what happened is not in my name or any moslem name.
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This response reminds me of the Billy Joel hit ‘ We didn’t start the
fire’ – a series of historical events sung at a frenzied pitch as a
rebuttal to the criticism that their generation was responsible for most
of the global problems then!
WMD, Iraq, Jean Charles de Menzes, Forrest Gate, Harold Shipman, British
media- ??? What next?
I agree that it would be unfair to drag one’s race or profession in
this issue. This poison seems to have affected people of all races and
professions if one looks at the recent terrorist activities. Perhaps
because I am a doctor and am foolishly old fashioned I believe that people
from this noble profession should never stoop down to this level.
I also agree with the practice followed in democratic countries like
India, UK and US-‘ assumption of innocence unless proved otherwise’-
rather than indiscriminate beheading and chopping of limbs without a fair
trial which unfortunately still happens in some parts of the world.
I agree that the BMA and the GMC should continue to support all
overseas doctors during this period irrespective of their race, religion
or culture. However one feels that this incident will affect all overseas
doctors in the way they are viewed and monitored and that is very sad. [it
would not be just Arab doctors or muslims]. But that is a heavy price we
all will have to pay now.
Reaction of the public and media- has been on the whole mature and
proportionate to the magnitude of the heinous crime. [ yes, there will
always be some exceptions]. If this had happened in some other countries,
I can assure you, the backlash would have been far more virulent. [judging
by the reaction to works by Salman Rushdie and Theo Van Gogh ,
one would shudder to imagine the reaction to an actual act of killing
innocent citizens].
If you feel that the attention of the media and the investigations
seem to be focused to a particular section of the community, try to
analyze that as we do in clinical medicine. There seems to be a common
denominator and as the old medical maxim goes: ‘If you hear the sound of
hoof beats, think horses, not zebras’.
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I always enjoyed my profession as a muslim doctor and I am sure
doctors from all other faiths are enjoying as well.
I tell you something about my religion and profession.
My religion:
My religion tells me to help every suffering human being irrespective of
his colour, faith, language etc etc.
It also tells me that if you save one life it is like if you have saved
the whole humanity; and if you kill an innocent person it is like if you
have killed the whole humanity. My religion tells me that you cannot even
cut a tree while fighting your enemy in the war, unless it is very
necessary for you to carry out your warplan by cutting that plant. My
prophet not only forgave his dearest uncle's killer but also declared his
house as a place of peace.
My profession:
Its service is beyond the boundaries of religion, race, language and
colour, and thats what my religion taught me.
My aim is to help the ailing humanity wholeheartedly and sincerely and
with all my capabilities. My belief is that my God is aware of that what I
am practising.
Health professionals are like a family they work to acheive their
goal by working together and without any discrimination. They are doing it
because their faith and professionalism is similar to each other in
serving the patients and working as a team.
now what ever is there in the news is neither fair to my religion nor
to my profession. Terror acts are always individual thoughts and beleifs
which usually have other human emotions in the backgound ( like revenge
and frutration etc)rather than relgion or profession. I dont think any
body can justify the act of killing innocent people on religious grounds
or just because somebody was jobless or was living alone.
But i have to accept that like every other religion and society,
Muslims have an element of fanatics, and the existance of such element is
a natural phenomenon; but to give them a chance to thrive and to make
other people vulnerable for them to transform into their robots, is
worrying.
These people were just human beings without humanity, they have
nothing to do with my dear religion and profession.
by explaining all this I dont want to defend my religion or
profession (becuase i dont need to), but I want to tell media not to
advertise this in a manner which may cause unrest to very respectful
colleagues of my sacred profession and to the followers of my religion.
Because we suffer twice with every act of terrorism.
lastly, can I ask what was the profession of people who carreied out
all terrorist acts all over the world,; and may I ask what was the
religion of people who killed millions of innocent people in the last 2
centuries.
I give you the answer, they had no profession and they had no
religion. The history will remember them as indisciminate killers and
murderers.
lets not affect our beautiful,welcoming, multifaith and multicultural
working environment with these news; they have nothing to do with us. lets
carry on working with the same enthusiasm and zest (accepting each others
individuality) as we were working; and to discourage any effort which can
potentially produce doubts or misunderstandings. Personally, I believe it
will be the opinion of every person working in the NHS.
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It took me a week to even respond to this cowardly act. I work near
Glasgow, use the same airport many a times a year and it didn't make
things any better, when saw the news on visual media whilst on holiday. We
(myself and family) just went numb.
The media went ballistic, understandable, but then when the dastardly
event is made to paint an airbrush of generalisation, it hurts more.
I am an Indian.Before that I am a human being with family. I am also
a Doctor. And I work in UK and I am proud to be part of the much maligned
NHS.
I come from a secular state, a country ravaged by terrorism decades before
modern world learnt about terrorism, so I can feel the shock.
This is an act of misfits in society, who use religion as a ruse to sugar
coat their cowardice. They are not religious bigots but by people who
haven't got a clue about religion as no religion teaches you to target
children going off to holidays with parents or youngsters chilling out
after a hard days work. And simply you can't justify violence.
The message should be simple, no one invited anyone to this country, we
all came on own volition. If you can't see eye to eye with this country,
please do leave.
I hope the government shows the guts and punishes the guilty... every
Indian will back you Mr Gordon Brown
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I cannot let Dr Helmy's piece pass without comment. I am pleased the
attacks were not in his name. Only those who performed them can be held
responsible and I hope he can be reassured that he is not held guilty by
association. His points can be addressed, I believe, as follows:
1) It does not prejudice a trial to report the facts of a case; a
trial merely confirms the guilt or non-guilt of a defendant. If facts are
reported inaccurately about an innocent person, they have recourse to the
libel laws. Strict rules are in place in the UK surrounding the reporting
of trials and media editors rightly fear imprisonment for contempt of
court.
2) See above – strict rules apply once a suspect is charged.
3) When has anyone in the UK said that all Muslim doctors are guilty
by association?
4) Conflating Iraq, Jean Charles de Menezes and an indisputably
dangerous act in driving a burning jeep into an airport is a straw man.
5) Harold Shipman did not kill in the name of religion, nor did he
offer a theological or ideological justification for his acts so his
religion or politics were not relevant. When terrorists use a theological
justification for their acts, their religion is germane. Their race is not
relevant – unless they have racist motivations.
6) I agree, the government response was measured. We Brits tend to be
pretty phlegmatic -probably something to do with the climate. Special
measures against Muslims would, I think you would find, be illegal in this
country. Here discrimination on the grounds of religion contravenes human
rights legislation (although the same does not apply in parts of South
Asia and the Middle East in the matter, for instance, of conversion). You
would hope, however, that the security forces might focus their efforts on
radicalised young jihadis rather than say, elderly Quakers, enclosed nuns
or uncommitted agnostics.
7) Agreed. No one felt mosque leaders were responsible for inciting
murder. Many of those imams who HAVE incited racial or religious hatred
have faced the criminal law. That’s the way we do it. All help to the
police is, I am sure gratefully received. Muslim leaders, however, do have
some difficulty in that Islam is not monolithic and a quietist Sufi might
have a different perspective on things from a Wahhabi-influenced imam.
8) The BMA is a union and should support all its members irrespective
of race or creed. The GMC is a regulatory body working in a framework of
law – it is there to protect the public and maintain standards of
practice. You will find all races and creeds well represented in both
bodies.
9) You will find the vast majority of British people extremely
tolerant even in the face of extreme provocation. However, I would urge
potential jihadis to avoid Glasgow again for in the words of the great
John Smeaton: “Glasgow doesn’t accept this. That’s just Glasgow – we’ll
set about ye”
10) Agreed – most media coverage has been very responsible. I would
say, however, that igniting motor vehicles containing explosive materials
in public places will not encourage integration and should be discouraged
wherever possible.
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The author could not be more correct. The silent Muslim majority,
particularly professionals, should make its voice heard now. Accepting a
job (or a living) in an other country is explicit acceptance of the law of
the land. Religion-based radicals are outright criminals, they strive to
create outlows and teach them to behave like pirates. Because mainstream
thought has no voice, Islam is hijacked, just like an aircraft, and used as a
missile!
The majority should speak out now, because the image looks so grim. After
all, what can the rest of the world do with a group that cannot lead,
refuses to follow, and would not get out of the way? Muslim communities -
particularly in the west - should distance themselves from radical
currents, well before they indulge into criminal thinking. Their leaders
should clearly indicat that anti-community initiatives will not be
tolerated to any extent. This should start now. It is already too late
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I am surprised if as stated the Indian Flag is shown in connection
with this incident. India has been a victim of terrorism much before these
events and have lost two prime ministers to random acts of terrorism, has
had its parliament attacked,major cities bombed etc. So no sir I wont be
lowering my head but will be holding it upright as I am quite proud of my
country of origin and respect it as the site of an ancient civilization
and the birthplace of the man who
Propounded the theory of non-violence. I do not feel in any way or form
the need to explain the act of a minority ,which is inexcusable and
unacceptable ,who do not represent me or my beliefs just as I did not
expect the ordinary Irish to be responsible for the acts of a few or the
Spanish for the actions of some of them.
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re not in my name
It was a terrible thing that happened. And agreed, however I do need
to point out the sad world in which we live. I trained in Burnley.
Nobody points out the deep seated rascism that exists in some parts of the
country. Now does that colour my impressions of every white person I
meet. do I ask every white person I see in the street to apologise and
ask them to say 'not in my name'? why is that? I guess that the reason
is that it is understood that such views are at the fringes of society.
yet why do i see queues of Muslims expected to apologise for what happened
in Glasgow. I read with interest the comment whereby the gentlemen asks
why moderate muslims don't speak out. I would like to inform the
gentleman that ALL muslims have spoken out about this issue. nowhere have
I been in the country where anyone has supported it.
I would now like to ask the genleman why he as a moderate English man
does not speak out against the BNP and why he does not protest openly and
ask other fellow englishman to come on Channel 4 news and come on Radio 4.
Neither the BNP or the London/Glasgow bombers are correct in their
assumptions, yet we see the two races being treated differently.
Some may call this rascism.
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