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Elliot F Epstein, Consultant Physician (Stroke) Walsall Manor Hospital, WS2 9PS
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Dr Bhatnager et al state a popular belief that combination treatment, with statin and etetimibe, may be used if cholesterol lowering targets are not met. We do accept that lowering cholesterol with statins reduces the risk of vascular events. However, there are still no randomised-controlled trials that support the benefit of ezetimibe in reducing vascular events. Until such trials are available, etetimibe should be prescribed with caution. Competing interests: None declared |
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Mark Struthers, General Practitioner Bedfordshire, UK
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Dr Epstein is surely right to prescribe caution in the use of Ezetimibe - but there are other reasons to be cautious about the prescription of all the cholesterol lowering drugs. The West Midlands Centre for Adverse Drug Reactions (adr.org.uk), authors of the Adverse Drug Reaction Bulletin (ADRB) have recently issued a warning via the FDA concerning a "potentially increased risk of cancer associated with Simvastatin and Ezetimibe when used in combination (Vytorin)." http://adr.org.uk/?p=163 The FDA is apparently investigating a report from the Simvastatin and Ezetimibe in Aortic Stenosis (SEAS) trial. The SEAS trial "tested whether lowering LDL-cholesterol with Vytorin would reduce the risk of cardiovascular events in individuals with aortic stenosis. A lower overall cardiovascular risk was not found with Vytorin. However, there was an additional observation that a larger percentage of subjects treated with Vytorin were diagnosed with and died from all types of cancer combined when compared to placebo during the 5-year study." Of course, there is no need to panic. The FDA believes some caution is required in interpretation of these preliminary results from SEAS bearing in mind that other large ongoing trials have not shown similar findings. The statins are very effective in reducing levels of cholesterol but their rather modest effect on the cardiovascular end point (death) appears largely independent of this undoubted fact. I believe there is good reason to be cautious about the collateral damage suffered in the ‘war on cholesterol’ and the effect of this damage on all cause end points. Competing interests: None declared |
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David Bossano, GP St Leonards Practice
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Thank-you to the authors for this useful article. The interesting definition of an abnormal cholesterol could be developed further to... A desirable cholesterol level is based on the value at which the CVD risk is unacceptably high, provided that the risk can be reduced to a level which is worthwhile to the patient by treatments which are tolerable and acceptable. Assuming a 20% risk over 10 years of a significant cardiovascular event, and a 25% absolute risk reduction if statins are taken for 10 years (the threshold for statin prescribing for primary prevention); If 100 people at this level of risk take a statin for 10 years, 80 will not have a cardiovascular event who would not have had one anyway, 15 will have a cardiovascular event who would have had one anyway and 5 patients will not have a cardiovascular event as a result of (all 100) taking a statin for 10 years. In other words the annualised NNT is 200 to prevent one cardiovascular event. (Please check my calculations and correct me if I am wrong!) What I would like to ask the authors, because it is something I would like to tell patients, is by how much is ones life or healthy life extended by taking a statin. In other words are there survival data for patients on statins such that we can say not only; Statins reduce your risk of having a heart attack or stroke by a quarter and on average if 20 people (like you) took a statin for 10 years, 1 less person would have a heart attack or stroke, but also, if you take a statin for 10 years on average you will live x months longer or will remain fit and active (by avoiding a stroke) on average y months longer. I'd be very grateful if the authors or other readers could point me at such information. Best wishes, David Bossano Competing interests: None declared |
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Raj S Bhopal, Professor of public health University of Edinburgh
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Rapid response: Cholesterol management: doctors should remember their public health responsibilities Editor, Bhatnagar et al's view that cholesterol management should be based on patients' predicted cardiovascular risk is a pragmatic, cost- effective solution to the delivery of individual doctor to-patient clinical care, particularly where drugs are to be prescribed. (1) Doctors also have public health responsibilities. From the public health perspective, every person in the country should be helped by the doctors to minimise their cholesterol, so that in future the mean value for the population will be below 4 mmol per litre, when we will largely dispense with pharmaceutical approaches. Doctors need to help to. My viewpoint has been expressed vigorously in Concepts of Epidemiology (2) and I quote: “Molecular science will deepen understanding of the interaction between the environment, lifestyle, and the gene…. The public health dividend from such knowledge will come from altering the pattern of risk factors in the whole population. Reducing serum cholesterol from the currently pathological level of 6 mmol per litre and more in some populations, to a physiologically normal value of 4 mmol per litre or even less, without mass medication, requires an understanding of how people and societies change. … in my 30 years since graduation I have seen professional perceptions on the level of total cholesterol requiring action drop from about 7 mmol/l, to about 6 mmol/l and now to 5 mmol/l. My figure of 4 mmol/l still looks radical but it will probably be standard by the next edition of this book.” Serum cholesterol is determined by a combination of biochemistry and what food is grown, processed, purchased, cooked, and eaten. Trade agreements, agricultural policy, marketing, and economic subsidy are crucial determinants of costs, availability and consumption. Other lifestyle factors such as physical activity are also of importance. Doctors, and not just public health ones, need to get involved in the greater challenge. Reference List (1) Bhatnagar D, Soran H, Durrington PN. Hypercholesterolaemia and its management. BMJ 2008; 337(aug21_1):a993. (2) Bhopal RS. Concepts of Epidemiology. 2 ed. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2008. Competing interests: None declared |
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David G Tucker, Holistic practioner hants SP10
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The body produces cholesterol every day.The amount produced and type, will depend on the body's requirement to restore, grow and repair cellular structures within the body at that time, for the given conditions. We assume that we know better...and 'adjust' nature's millenia of evolutionary design with man-made chemicals, instead of correcting the detrimental dietry and life-style habits which precipitated the adverse health conditions. Aside from giving us the totally expected dangerous side effects from going against this situation, we exacerbate the problems by not correcting the underlying causes. Are we mad?....or should I not be concerned about the vast sums of money this Statin market increasingly generates by finding new supposedly suseptable groups...even children... to prescribe to? Fortunately, Pandora's Box is now open to all, thanks to the Internet and the allopathic model of wellness through drugs is feeling very exposed.. ...or maybe you have a convincing body of totally independent reliable research, indicating a distinct reduction in death rates due to Statin administration? I am just amazed that the human race managed to survive thus far witout the intervention of Big Pharma's wonderous benefits... Competing interests: None declared |
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Uffe Ravnskov, independent researcher Magle Stora Kyrkogata 9, 22350 Lund, Sweden
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In
their review about hypercholesterolaemia and its management Dr Bhatnager and his
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Raymond G Holder, Retired engineer Home BH9 3NF
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I was encouraged to see that you had published Uffe Ravnskov's letter and thus put some authoritative balance into the lemming like rush to lower cholesterol at any price. Repetitive papers continue to appear singing the praises of attacking the imagined disease of hypercholesterolemia, all in the same vein, and providing no recent trials, but turning over old work, in the name of meta analysis. A paper in the BMJ only a few weeks ago was still singing the praises of the HPS study, which can so evidently be seen to be flawed, especially in the way it eliminated reports of early side effects, and the conclusions were based more on fervent hope than factual figures.This same BMJ paper quoted the "Keys' Theorem" in relating the consumption of saturated fat to cholesterol levels. No theorem in any branch of real science would be given any credence at all if data was selected solely to fit the hypothesis. Medical research and guideline preparation would be much better served if they were not solely the work of blinkered one-specialism workers, and some criticism of their methods and objectives by other possible interested branches of medicine such as metabolism and mitochondrial problems could be seen to have been made and taken into account. There are now thousands of damaged statin users in so many countries, but those who continue to advocate statins appear to acknowledge only the minimal side effects recorded in trials, where the dangers mentioned in the Merck patents of 1990 were never put forward as possible outcomes. All others are said to be just anecdotal My near approach to death's door 5 years ago was just one such, alongside the 80 in MHRA's records who were not recognised in time and so were not saved. Long live Drs Ravnskov, Kendrick, McCully and Langsjoen, and thanks to the late Karl Folkers who brought real scientific methods and true biological knowledge to lighten up this very murky and worrying scourge of the population today. Competing interests: Statin damaged patient |
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Björn Hammarskjöld, M.D., Ph.D. SWE79291
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20 years ago the normal values of cholesterol was between 4.4 and 8.8 according to my lab’s reference values. Cholesterol is necessary for survival, brain function, membrane stabilizing, infection protection among other things. Why should we change the natures own millennii old research? Why is animal fat dangerous? Didn’t you drink your mother’s milk with 56 E% animal fat during the first months of your life? How can a nutrient tested for very many generations be bad for you? If animal fat would be bad for us, all mammals should have been extinct eons ago. Why does a cow have four stomachs? Because she eats cellulose and need those four stomachs to break down cellulose to glucose. The glucose is transformed via acetic acid to fat and protein. So the cow is a very good converter of carbohydrates to protein and fat. And, the cow collects all vitamins and minerals she needs to be OK. If you eat corn, the corn will exit the other way seemingly complete, you can not digest one single molecule of cellulose. But you can eat meat from the cow and you don’t need anything more but salt and water. Humans have been hunters since at least 10 000 generations. We hunters just have to eat meat, fish, egg and fat to stay healthy. Also, how did we treat a diabetic 87 years ago? Well, in Sweden we used fat pork and heavy cream stewed cabbage. The diabetic did not have any symptoms of his disease, lived as long as any nondiabetic. And we had more than a hundred years of experience. Today we order diabetics to eat 60 % of all energy to be carbohydrates, And then those poor diabetics need a lot of drugs including insulin to try to keep the blood glucose level down. Why do we need 60 E% carbohydrates when carbohydrates are nonessential? Protein and fat are essential, that’s why we need them but we don’t need to eat one single molecule of carbohydrates. The world is inverted today. We eat carbohydrates which are nonessential, we don’t eat fat which is essential, as well as protein. We’ve better start thinking instead of doing what others tell us to do. Competing interests: Senior citizen and can tell the truth without being hit economically |
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SAYAN SEN, SpR CARDIOLOGY BARNET HOSPITAL, EN5 3DJ, Dr A Pirshahid, Dr A Bakhai
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Dear Sir, Dr Bhatnagar and colleagues (1) have written a useful review for non- specialists, covering a large area of work. Whilst we accept the difficulty of providing an entirely comprehensive account of such a fast moving field, we would like to comment on the treatment sections of the article. The benefits of statins are regarded as a class effect; however, there are differences between statins in addition to their varying effect on lipid profile. Statins vary in their metabolism and this affects their potential for drug interaction. Simvastatin and atorvastatin are metabolised via the CYP3A4 pathway. Concurrent therapy with drugs that interfere with CYP3A4 pathway (such as anti retrovirals, cyclosporine, digoxin, diltiazem and anti fungals) may lead to statin accumulation and an increased propensity for myopathic side effects. Statins not metabolised via this pathway such as pravastatin, rosuvastatin and fluvastatin should be considered in these patients. Furthermore, whilst the incidence of myositis is now less than 0.5%, it does appear to be less frequent with hydrophilic statins such as pravastatin (2,3). This is thought to be secondary to less muscle penetration (4) making hydrophilic statins a suitable therapeutic option for patients hindered by myopathic complaints on lipophilic statins such as simvastatin/ atorvastatin. With regard to adjunctive therapy such as ezetimibe, despite an additional absolute 15% reduction in LDL cholesterol, the combination of simvastatin and ezetimibe has shown neutral results in recent trials (5, 6) thus far. We await the results of the IMPROVE-IT trial (7), in the interim NICE suggests it is reasonable to employ the combination to achieve LDL target. The increase in cancer incidence in the recent SEAS trial is surprising. However, it would not be the first lipid-altering drug with unexpected adverse effects. The increase in mortality and blood pressure with Torcetrapib in phase III studies has lead to Pfizer halting trials and their development programme for Torcetrapib. In contrast, the safety profile for statins is known. Ten year follow up from 4S and WOSCOPS trials have not shown an increased incidence of cancer with statins (8,9). Thus, until we have the results of IMPROVE -IT, perhaps alternative statins such as atorvastatin or rosuvastatin, which have more prognostic and safety data should be employed if target is not achieved with simvastatin. Guidelines aim to simplify decision-making, suggesting simvastatin for all with dose adjustment and adding ezetimibe if necessary. However, this may not always be optimal for individual patients. The practicing physician must therefore also be aware of statin subtypes, interactions and the benefits and pitfalls of new adjunctive therapies. Dr Sayan Sen MRCP SpR Cardiology, Barnet & Chase Farm Hospitals NHS Trust Dr A Pirshahid. Clinical Fellow, Barnet & Chase Farm Hospitals NHS Trust Dr A Bakhai FRCP Consultant Cardiologist, Barnet & Chase Farm Hospitals NHS Trust 1.Hypercholesterolaemia and its management. Deepak Bhatnagar, Handrean Soran, and Paul N Durrington BMJ 2008;337:a993, doi: 10.1136/bmj.a993 2..Incidence of hospitalized rhabdomyolysis in patients treated with lipid-lowering drugs. Graham DJ; Staffa JA; Shatin D; Andrade SE; Schech SD; La Grenade L; Gurwitz JH; Chan KA; Goodman MJ; Platt R JAMA 2004 Dec 1;292(21):2585-90. Epub 2004 Nov 22 3.Safety and tolerability of pravastatin in long-term clinical trials: prospective Pravastatin Pooling (PPP) Project. Pfeffer MA; Keech A; Sacks FM; Cobbe SM; Tonkin A; Byington RP; Davis BR; Friedman CP; Braunwald E. Circulation 2002 May 21;105(20):2341-6 4.Differential sensitivity of C2-C12 striated muscle cells to lovastatin and pravastatin. Gadbut AP; Caruso AP; Galper JB J Mol Cell Cardiol 1995 Oct;27(10):2397-402 5. Simvastatin with or without Ezetimibe in Familial Hypercholesterolemia. J Kastelein MD, F Akdim MD, E Stroes MD, et al New Engl J Med 2008 358:1431-1443 6. Design and Baseline Characteristics of the Simvastatin and Ezetimibe in Aortic Stenosis (SEAS) Study. Rossebo AB; Pedersen TR; Allen C; Boman K; Chambers J; Egstrup K; Gerdts E; Gohlke-Barwolf C; Holme I; Kesaniemi VA; Malbecq W; Nienaber C; Ray S; Skjaerpe T; Wachtell K; Willenheimer R Am J Cardiol. 2007 Apr 1;99(7):970-973. Epub 2007 Feb 15 7. IMPROVE-IT: Examining Outcomes in Subjects With Acute Coronary Syndrome:Vytorin (Ezetimibe/Simvastatin) vs Simvastatin. In progress. Clinicaltrials.gov 8.Mortality and incidence of cancer during 10-year follow-up of the Scandinavian Simvastatin Survival Study (4S). Strandberg TE; Pyorala K; Cook TJ; Wilhelmsen L; Faergeman O; Thorgeirsson G; Pedersen TR; Kjekshus J. Lancet 2004 Aug 28;364(9436):771-7. 9. Long-term follow-up of the West of Scotland Coronary Prevention Study. Ford I; Murray H; Packard CJ; Shepherd J; Macfarlane PW; Cobbe SM. N Engl J Med. 2007 Oct 11;357(15):1477-86. Competing interests: None declared |
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Raymond G Holder, Retired engineer Home BH9 3NF
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It is amazing that Sayan Sen et al should quote a figure of less than 0.5% for the incidence of myositis from statin use, when many have reported that it is nearer 20% in the general situation. The low figure appears to arise from trial reports, which fail to count these events fully. The larger figure is also borne out by affected patient reports on websites where they seek help for the problem, not available from their doctors, and from personal stories of folk known to me. I am also surprised that the letter says that the depth of penetration of the statin into the muscle has a bearing on the severity of myositis. Merck explained in its 1990 patent applications that reduction of Q10 production in the mevalonate pathway, in which all statins work, is the cause, but this fact has not been allowed to trickle down to coal face clinicians. Another facet on lowered lipids was put forward this month in the American Heart Journal by P Tamara et al where 17,000 patients hospitalised with heart failure, had their lipid profile taken, and their progress was analysed, covering 2 years. 46% were on statins. Each 10ml INCREASE in cholesterol level was associated with a 4% DECREASED risk of in-hospital mortality from heart failure. Food for thought there, especially by the Heart Czar, who says that the older generation should have a chance to "share the benefits of statin therapy" (perhaps a place further up in the queue at the undertakers??) Competing interests: Statin damaged patient |
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