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Abi Berger
What do you think of the BMJ's POEMs?
BMJ 2003; 326: 1228 [Full text]
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[Read Rapid Response] The opposite of a POEM might be useful too
Nick C Bradley   (8 June 2003)
[Read Rapid Response] More POEMs on diagnosis
Giuseppe Giocoli   (9 June 2003)
[Read Rapid Response] POETRY
Daniel L Sontheimer   (10 June 2003)
[Read Rapid Response] POEMs
Paula A. Evans   (10 June 2003)
[Read Rapid Response] Use of POEMS in Medical Education
Betty B. Gatipon   (11 June 2003)
[Read Rapid Response] POEMS - obscure subjects
Gregory Warner, Greatwell Drive, Romsey, SO53 4NH   (11 June 2003)
[Read Rapid Response] poem in a POEM
Boghos L. Artinian   (23 July 2004)
[Read Rapid Response] A Butterfly is a fly that flutters by.....
Dr. Herbert H. Nehrlich   (23 July 2004)

The opposite of a POEM might be useful too 8 June 2003
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Nick C Bradley,
general practitioner
Ide Lane Surgey, Alphington, Exeter, EX2 8UP

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Re: The opposite of a POEM might be useful too

Perhaps the BMJ would consider publishing PROSE as well as POEMs: pharmaceutical-driven research offering specious evidence.

Preventing and treating influenza with "amivirs" would be an example. Since these drugs are the subject of NICE guidance in 1999 and 2000, and an editorial (Stohr K. BMJ 2003;326:1223-4) based on a NICE commissioned study (Cooper NJ et al. BMJ 2003;326:1235-40) both in the BMJ this week (7 June 2003), patients and doctors might be forgiven for thinking they are helpful. Their proven benefit amounts to one day less (out of an average six) feeling unwell from flu when used as treatment; and a reduced odds ratio for healthy subjects of getting flu when used as prevention: no fewer complications, no fewer deaths.

How were these clinically irrelevant results ever graced with NICE guidance? And how did the drugs attract the epithet of clinically effective based on these outcomes? This is the exact opposite of evidence that matters.

Most evidence that doesn't matter never sees the light of day. When it does, I hope that the BMJ will recognise it for what it is and PROSE it.

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More POEMs on diagnosis 9 June 2003
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Giuseppe Giocoli,
GdL EBM AMCLI (Associazione Microbiologi Clinici Italiani)
Via Sarca, 19 25015 Desenzano (BS)

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Re: More POEMs on diagnosis

I'm in a small group of clinical microbiologists interested in implementation of EBM for ID management. We would like to see more POEMs published about diagnostic topics.

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POETRY 10 June 2003
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Daniel L Sontheimer,
Assoc Director
Spartanburg Family Medicine Residency

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Re: POETRY

Simply put, POEMs hit the mark. Too often, EBM provides with evidence that meets standards (RCT, double blinded, allocation concealed, etc.), but fails to meet the criterion of what my matter if I (a patient) were sick, e.g., will I live longer, better? POEMs meet this vital criterion by focusing on methodology and outcome. Thus, the often-cited but misleading study, soley to do surrogate or less than rigorous outcome, fails to become a POEM. That is the beauty of Poetry and the POEM, the question asked is if and only if "Juliette becomes the sun", and nothing else.

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POEMs 10 June 2003
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Paula A. Evans,
GP
York YO24 4HD

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Re: POEMs

I am a GP.

I have enjoyed POEMs in the BMJ as:

1. cunningly placed at the front of the journal, to be read whilst still fresh
2. concise boxes
3. relevant to the questions we try to answer in General Practice
4. clear statement at the end
5. sourcing of evidence helps us to evaluate
6. the variety of topics means that we update quickly on some secondary care topics too

I was prompted to have a free month's trial from infopoems, and will consider getting a subscription. Getting the regular email which can be scanned quickly, meant I got a new bit of information and not have to rely on motivation!

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Use of POEMS in Medical Education 11 June 2003
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Betty B. Gatipon,
Family Medicine Clerkship Co-Director
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Re: Use of POEMS in Medical Education

I plan to include the the bmj site in those recommended for my students in studying EBM. The Poems approach is one we advocate in our Family Medicine clerkship.

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POEMS - obscure subjects 11 June 2003
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Gregory Warner,
GP
Nightingale Surgery,
Greatwell Drive, Romsey, SO53 4NH

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Re: POEMS - obscure subjects

As a GP I really liked the idea of these short pithy evidence nuggets. The trouble is that many of the subjects chosen seem very obscure and peripheral and not the key questions of everyday practice. Please answer questions more commonly on doctors' minds.

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poem in a POEM 23 July 2004
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Boghos L. Artinian,
Physician, Private practice
Salam Building Salim Bustani Street Watwat, Beirut, Lebanon

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Re: poem in a POEM

Question: Do medical principles uphold
'Azithroing' the old?

Synopsis: It has become a tradition
To 'azithro' pulmonary infection

Though some still prefer to "cipro'
Any organism that is micro!
Thus hundreds of old folk treated
With just six tablets, unrepeated,
Did well within a few days
In contrast to those subjected to delays.

Waiting to determine the identity
Of the microbial celebrity
Could either render the treatment too late
Or render the patients slow to recuperate.

Bottom line: Medical principles no longer matter
Should evidence those principles shatter.

Level of evidence: Anecdotal.

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A Butterfly is a fly that flutters by..... 23 July 2004
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Dr. Herbert H. Nehrlich,
Private Practice
Bribie Island, Australia 4507

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Re: A Butterfly is a fly that flutters by.....

Well, the challenge has reached me. Anyone out there who wants to submit some real poems, limericks or others, I think it is high time for a little genuine poetry at BMJ.

I am ready. Just say the word.

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